[libre-riscv-dev] Instruction sorta-prefixes for easier high-register access
Jacob Lifshay
programmerjake at gmail.com
Tue Jan 22 08:08:32 GMT 2019
Changes to the proposal:
I changed where elmsz comes from in integer size conversions, using
OP-IMM/OP-IMM-32 to differentiate between unsigned/signed.
I split the elmsz mapping into elmszd/elmszw to allow reordering to match
the unprefixed sizes.
I added operations allowing compare into mask for both int and fp (f<fcc>.m
and cmpm).
I added reciprocal-sqrt (frsqrt).
I changed all the type conversions for c.conv to Reserved, the c.mv entries
were left alone.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 11:55 PM Jacob Lifshay <programmerjake at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I finished adding all the RV64G base instructions.
>
> URL for convenience:
>
> https://salsa.debian.org/Kazan-team/kazan/blob/master/docs/Prefix%20Proposal.md
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 4:25 AM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <
> lkcl at lkcl.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 11:41 AM Jacob Lifshay <programmerjake at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 02:42 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > ---
>> > > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware:
>> https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 10:23 AM Jacob Lifshay <
>> programmerjake at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > I pushed a work-in-progress prefix proposal to
>> > > >
>> > >
>> https://salsa.debian.org/Kazan-team/kazan/blob/master/docs/Prefix%20Proposal.md
>> > >
>> > > looks great;
>> > >
>> > > elwidth
>> > >
>> > > 11 64-bit (d)
>> > >
>> > > can you make that "default" (in both int & fp), so that:
>> > >
>> > I'm reusing the encoding from ld/st and from fp arith so can't change
>> the
>> > order since I'm using the pre-existing fields to encode elmsz.
>>
>> part of the pre-existing instruction: ok, yes, so that can't change.
>> then we are talking about different things. the purpose of the
>> elwidth in the Reg CSRs is to override the default [pre-existing]
>> encoding *and* to indicate that the register file is to be treated as
>> a type-casted contiguous SRAM as far as elements are concerned.
>>
>> so the "register" (standard register) is merely a convenient address
>> pointer into that SRAM, and, crucially, the REMAP "offset" is added to
>> that [type-casted] SRAM address, in order to be able to access high
>> bytes/halfs/words of 64-bit "registers".
>>
>> if an elwidth over-ride is *not* to be included in the prefix, then
>> it becomes extremely complex, as there are four cases to consider:
>>
>> * default, scalar (standard RV behaviour)
>> * non-default, scalar (IGNORES HIGH ZERO/SIGN BITS)
>> * default, elements (RESPECTS HIGH ZERO/SIGN BITS)
>> * non-default, elements (COMPACTS MULTIPLE ELEMENTS INTO 64-bit
>> "registers")
>>
>> if there does not exist an elwidth over-ride, it becomes extremely
>> complex software-wise to interact between the vector and scalar
>> "worlds". xBitManip, &'ing, |'ing and shifts all become necessary in
>> order to "extract" and place data into and out of vectors: precisely
>> the things we wish to avoid doing.
>>
>>
>> > >
>> > > (a) when using the CSR tables, the "default" may be over-ridden
>> >
>> > we can set it so that the csr tables overrides the 64.
>>
>> that's not a good idea. that changes the meaning of the 16 and 32
>> bit opcodes. as in: you actually have to emit completely the "wrong"
>> opcode.
>>
>> right now, the opcodes do not actually change "meaning". that's been
>> a critical and fundamental tenet of SV: you *do not* change the
>> meaning of the standard RV opcodes. there's a couple of places where
>> that rule is bent a little (BEQ/BNE), however it's not in such a
>> drastic way.
>>
>> > > (b) the elwidth can be taken from the opcode (and the usual
>> > > zero/sign-extension done: this is crucial for LD/ST)
>> > >
>> > the ld/st elwidth is taken from the opcode. I designed it so ld/st
>> always
>> > loads/stores the same width as the register has, so I can reuse the
>> > zero/sign bit for the msb of ld_st_kind.
>>
>> ... that's changing the meaning of LD/ST *and* changes the encoding.
>> i very specifically avoided doing that, as one of the design goals of
>> SV, particularly as it complicates the decoder phase (conditional
>> decoding, based on the prefix)
>>
>>
>> > > (c) RV32/RV64 mode can do the "normal" changing that is part of the
>> RV
>> > > spec.
>> >
>> >
>> > > the signed/unsigned table is not needed: i did a comprehensive
>> > > analysis as part of spike-sv which shows that the sign/zero extension
>> > > may be taken from whether the instruction has a ".W" suffix. dead
>> > > simple.
>> > >
>> > Yup, except I'm using that as elmsize[1], so I need another bit.
>>
>> that doesn't make any sense: it's effectively just moving one bit
>> from the standard ".W" location into elmsize[1]. and overcomplicates
>> the instruction decoder phase:
>>
>> if (prefix mode) sign_mode = elmsize[1] else sign_mode = {standard
>> location}
>>
>>
>> > > the c.mv sign/unsigned: this makes me nervous (especially after
>> > > analysing how complex in the hardware it is to do). it turns the
>> > > processor into a CISC design that effectively requires turning the
>> > > instruction into two microcode ops. and it's element-based.
>> > >
>> > We can change the conv instruction to only be valid to/from 32-bits.
>> >
>> > everything in prefixed C is still in flux, so that can change.
>> > I think we should establish a working 48-bit encoding and then pick the
>> > most commonly used ops, since I'd like prefixed C to be similar to C in
>> > that every C instruction expands 1:1 to a 48-bit instruction and C is
>> just
>> > used to make them smaller.
>>
>> that's a really good goal to have, i like it.
>>
>> bear in mind though that this absolutely requires a "holistic"
>> approach. i found that one single thing out-of-place or overlooked
>> can throw the entire scheme into chaos and require a redesign.
>>
>> the point being, there: the prefixed-C *needs* to be considered at
>> the same time as the 48-bit version. they cannot be done separately.
>>
>>
>> > Note that since C is almost entirely used already and basically no new
>> > extensions will redefine it, we can redefine the prefixed version of C
>> > however we want (basically new 32-bit instructions inspired by C, rather
>> > than prefixed C instructions).
>>
>> iiinteresting.... i like where that could lead. let's see how far
>> that gets, bear in mind that it means a heck of a lot of compiler
>> work. it basically means creating a fork of gcc and binutils, for
>> example. however what's good is, it's not changing the existing
>> standard RV (32-bit or 16-bit) meanings; it's just additions.
>>
>> l.
>>
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