[libre-riscv-dev] [Libre-silicon-devel] [OT only slightly] STEAM Camp OpenSourceEcology 22jan2020 for 9 days
Marcin Jakubowski
marcin at opensourceecology.org
Tue Dec 31 23:58:41 GMT 2019
David and Crew,
This is great - https://libresilicon.com/
What are the current equipment needs that Open Source Ecology can help
with?We design and build industrial machines, and on our roadmap for 2022
is production of photovoltaics. How much overlap is there for equipment
needs?
Great diagrams at
https://download.libresilicon.com/process/v1/process_hightech_steps.pdf -
thanks for producing that.
For some of the machines - Ion implanter • Plasma etcher • Sputter engine
(Metal deposition) • Diffusion furnace • CVD/LPCVD machine • Exposure unit
- are these the high cost items that constitute the majority of the $1B
cost of a fab? Or are there other major costs? My starting assumption is
that we can reduce the cost of a $1B fab 100x with open source design and
collaboration.
Are you aware of any viable open source versions of the above equipment?
Regarding smart-contract based rewarding of IP contributors in your Lightning
Talk <https://download.libresilicon.com/propaganda/talk.pdf> - does that
mechanism have traction yet?
Thanks,
Marcin
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 5:28 PM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net>
wrote:
> (removing lots of unnecessary ccs, particularly the FOSDEM visitor list)
>
> On 12/31/19, Marcin Jakubowski <marcin at opensourceecology.org> wrote:
>
> > Luke, any thoughts on you stepping up and coordinating the maskless
> stepper
> > module of this crazy evolution?
>
> as we (privately) discussed yesterday, there are 4 levels of NDAs: HDL
> tools, VLSI tools, Cell Libraries and Foudries.
>
> i'm waaay overloaded by dealing with level 1 heavily and interacting
> with people at level 2 and 3.
>
> david and the libre-silicon team are dealing with level *4* heavily,
> level 3 in a big way, and interacting with people at levels 2 and 1.
> they're the best people for this.
>
> l.
>
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